In the hours before he took the stage at a well-trodden Brooklyn venue, we caught up with Kirin J. Callinan and his cohort for steak and eggs before heading to the nearby park. Amid sit-ups, bench dips and a running race we got the lowdown on Callinan’s upcoming second album, Bravado, shooting a video clip on a whim in Cuba, touring with fellow Australians Pond, and the art of acquiring a bass player along the way.

Bravado is set for release June 9. Kirin J. Callinan returns to Australia to play as part of Vivid Sydney on June 10, plus dates in Brisbane, Melbourne, Adelaide, Perth and Fremantle.